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Post by Flyboy on Oct 2, 2009 10:48:50 GMT -5
I'm watching NOTLD right now & I've been thinking more about Cooper. Obviously, the "my way or the highway" attitude is how he comes off in the movie. I really think he'd be like that if not in this situation as well. He has to have his way & thinks he's always right.
But I think he'd be a more laid back person if he always got what he wanted & if people would listen to him. He'd still be a jerk but less of one & perhaps even more cooperative if things go his way.
Now I'm talking about Hardman's Cooper not Towles' take on the character, who comes off as abusive & just not all there. I really think he & Helen were having marital problems of some sort in both versions.
But yeah, this is just a thought & something to discuss.
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Post by The Dead Walk! on Oct 2, 2009 15:02:45 GMT -5
I agree. He definitely would always be some kind of a prick, but I can see him being much less of one in normal situations. And hell, maybe he'd even be an ok guy around the holidays and stuff.
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Post by rich on Feb 8, 2010 21:40:08 GMT -5
I don't think Cooper was really the ass people make him out to be or even the ass he came across as in the film(s). I think he was just simply doing what he felt was the best for his daughter, and not taking the lives of any of the other people into consideration. Of course, we [as third party viewers] can sit back and say, "yeah, that's kind of assholish" but from a parent's point of view, they are ALWAYS going to think about their kid first. In a way, you can't blame Cooper for how he acted. He was just being a father.
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Post by UndeadNed on Feb 9, 2010 21:38:03 GMT -5
Interesting points raised by all. I gotta agree he still comes across as a prick who feels the need to be in charge, but given different circumstances he probably wouldn't be as bad. Certainly escaping a near death situation, and his daughter getting attacked in the process and her growing sicker and sicker would've probably elevated his stress and shortened his temper.
Its also the clash of ideologies IMO that brought out the assholish-ness in Cooper and Ben to a degree.
Ben's idea consisted of standing his ground actively defending the house, probably because the idea of hiding in the basement left him feeling powerless, and its his way of being able to fight back in the face of fear and uncertainty.
Coopers plan, however, was to hide out of sight, keep a low profile and stay in a safe area with only one entrance that can be barricaded hopefully not drawing further attention from any zeds wandering around outside and wait for help.
Ben engaged his fight response Cooper engaged his flight response.
I don't doubt that if they all agreed to head to the basement Cooper would've been more pleasant to deal with.
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Post by rogueslayer on Jan 29, 2011 16:46:49 GMT -5
He was probably was a person who would be better to get along with in the original trilogy compared to the Bikers or Rhodes in the later films.
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Post by Flyboy on Jan 29, 2011 18:19:08 GMT -5
Haha yeeeah I'd rather hang with Hardman's Cooper over the bikers and Rhodes. Any day.
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Post by UndeadNed on Jan 30, 2011 6:09:37 GMT -5
Haha yeeeah I'd rather hang with Hardman's Cooper over the bikers and Rhodes. Any day. haha yeah absolutely considering Cooper was just a middle aged office drone. Apart from that moment when he tried to make a grab for the rifle he was pretty much just a tempest in a teapot sort of guy. Throw him in a situation with more people and someone more authoritative and he would've folded like origami. |
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