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Post by tomo666 on Aug 22, 2010 13:32:57 GMT -5
I thought that Cholo was actually a bigger villain than Kaufman. He was prepared to blow up an entire city of survivors just for money. Kaufman was just trying to figure out what to do, and in the end, you see that he WAS going to pay Cholo (where he gets in the limo with the money). What do you guys think?
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Post by Flyboy on Aug 22, 2010 14:20:17 GMT -5
I always gathered that Kaufman was going to just take the money for himself & run away.
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Post by The Dead Walk! on Aug 22, 2010 21:17:15 GMT -5
Yeah he definitely wasn't going to pay him. He took that money for himself.
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Post by UndeadNed on Aug 22, 2010 21:55:34 GMT -5
I always gathered that Kaufman was going to just take the money for himself & run away. That was the impression I got too. If you remember the scene where he shot one of his board members (was I the only one who thought that scene was pretty funny just because of how random it seemed?) he was caught in the act of trying to leave the building with the money by himself so he killed his only witness. In terms of overall evil-ness, I gotta disagree and say Kaufman was more evil. Even though he didn't kill many people by his own hand he did utilize people like Cholo to carry out his dirty deeds taking out people who were problematic to him. He was like a crime boss hiring a hit man/cleaner to solve his problems so he can continue to consolidate his power. I think through his actions he caused far more suffering and grief then Cholo ever actually did. He also had his hand in every vice (according to slack) that could be found in Fiddlers Green. Cholo certainly had the intent to do grievous harm on a lot people with his rocket attack but was never able to pull it off. |
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Post by Flesh Eater on Sept 27, 2010 12:07:02 GMT -5
I used to think that Cholo was a victim.
He is really just a scammer who trys to slide in wherever he can. It's as much his fault that Kaufman played him as it is Kaufmans. Cholo should have been realistic and known that he would never get into Fiddler's Green. He used Kaufman as much as Kaufman used him.
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Post by The Dead Walk! on Sept 27, 2010 13:23:20 GMT -5
Yeah I don't really look at Cholo as a villain. He was a pretty decent guy who just got screwed over. Sure he was kind of a jerk, but he was a flawed good guy in my opinion.
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Post by UndeadNed on Sept 27, 2010 19:50:39 GMT -5
Actually what I was surprised at was why the other crew in dead reckoning were so willing to follow him along on his scheme. Were they seriously expecting Kaufman to pay up and that they'd be welcomed back with open arms after it was all over? I expect that sort of short sightedness from Cholo since he's somewhat impulsive, but the others didn't exactly strike me as morons... well except mouse (the skateboard kid)
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Post by Flesh Eater on Sept 28, 2010 6:06:41 GMT -5
Actually what I was surprised at was why the other crew in dead reckoning were so willing to follow him along on his scheme. Were they seriously expecting Kaufman to pay up and that they'd be welcomed back with open arms after it was all over? I expect that sort of short sightedness from Cholo since he's somewhat impulsive, but the others didn't exactly strike me as morons... well except mouse (the skateboard kid) Short sightedness and a bit of a child's mentality. I guess that when you live in the situations they were dealing with, you start to dream..... and dream big! |
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Post by thedeadfreak97 on Nov 7, 2010 16:40:12 GMT -5
I'd asy that they were both equal. Cholo was going to blow up a building for cash and kaufman killed everyone who went against him.
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